beneath the stream

17. Wilderness 1 - with Dan Richards

October 7, 2019

The way that people respond to wild places lights them up; so proposes writer Dan Richards, who’s latest acclaimed book, ‘Outpost: A Journey to the Wild Ends of the Earth’, explores what wilderness means to us. In this podcast he discusses whether our response to wilderness is bearing witness to the traces of humans who have been affected by places that, in our imagination, are meant to be savage and untameable.

Does wilderness comprise the places where a writer can touch ‘other’? Be lonely? Feel alive? Escape human connection? Or see what the world would be like without us? These places change us, and with music by Dan himself and prompting from Colin - solo in this episode - together they ponder ultimately whether humans are entitled to go to these places that might themselves be irrevocably changed by our visits?

Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here:

Outpost: A Journey to the Wild Ends of the Earth

Wealden Literary Festival

Mars Desert Research Station

Cordouan Lighthouse

Ray Bradbury

The Foghorn

The Signalman, Charles Dickens

Roger Deakin

Nicky Wire, Manic Street Preachers

Oscar II Land

16. Pilgrimage

September 12, 2019

From the North-west passage to Niels Bohr via Bruce Chatwin, Bardsey Island, Joan Baez and Blue Whales, our journey on this podcast explores the physicality, spirituality and ‘otherness’ of pilgrimage. Recorded on location on the Camino de Santiago in Asturias, northern Spain we ponder the meaning of this human act of endurance, faith and meditation.

What do we learn when we feel the earth on our skin and feel, and touch or reconnect to, something more: to meet the crossing points to our ancestors, or the migratory routes of birds, or profound non-human experiences. Accompany us and discover if we are in fact ‘nobody to the hills; just a body, feeling’.

With music by Colin Williams.

Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here:

Asturias
Biodiverse
Camino de Santiago
Oviedo
Cathedral of San Salvador
Frédéric Gros: A Philosophy of Walking
Satish Kumar
Green lanes
Croagh, Ireland
Kumano Kodō, Japan
Kumano Shan Zan
Via Francigena, Italy
Pilgrims Way, North Wales
Holywell
Bardsey Island
Mount Kailash Circuit Tibet
Matthew Oates
Migration of birds
Santa Cristina de Lena
Swifts
Shamanism
John Clare
Brill Building, Broadway
Goffin & King
Elton John
Cafe Wah?, Greenwich Village
Ellis Island
Sicilian
Black Mountains, Wales
Bruce Chatwin
Niels Bohr
Quantum Physics
Paleolithic rock art
John Coltrane
Joan Baez
Bob Dylan
Blue Whale
Northwest Passage
John Franklin
Michael Palin: Erebus
Stan Rodgers
Michael Meade: Fate and Destiny the Two Agreements of the Soul

15. ‘Irreplaceable’ with Julian Hoffman - the fight to save wild places

August 11, 2019

Recorded on Hampstead Heath in London, we take a journey into some of the most threatened places and habitats of the non-human world by talking with Julian Hoffman, author of the newly published and acclaimed book ‘Irreplaceable’. He eloquently weaves accounts of both loss and ‘radical hopefulness’ through the stories of the people working to save these places, and through our conversation we seek to answer questions about our relationship with the non-human.

Are stories becoming ever more important for us to navigate the great challenging environmental issues of our time? Why do locations become places of importance to humans? Why do some enlarge what ‘home’ means to them by including the non-human? How do we resist being divorced from the natural world by the those pursuing power and greed? How is it that children still engage with the non-human in the little details and small places unselfconscious about engaging with nature?

Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here:

Mavrovo National Park - north Macedonia

Meteora monastery west Greece

Future Generations Act

Bangka island, Indonesia

14. Bear - totem and reality in Asturias

July 6, 2019

There is perhaps no creature that better encapsulates our conflicted relationship with the non-human world. Think of the complex mix of ideas that we humans associate with bears in modern times: child’s toy; indigenous people’s power totem; the reality of human-bear antagonism; the fear of unpredictable predators; celestial constellation; Boston Bruins; Chicago Bears; Yogi; Goldilocks; the list goes on. Through their place for us in myth, symbolism, history and reality do bears ‘see’ through us, and in doing so allow us to see beyond our humanity and glimpse again how we are primordially connected to the natural world?

With music from Colin, and recordings from in the field in Asturias, northern Spain, amidst the mountains, screes, meadows and forests of biologically-rich Somiedo Natural Park, we explore the ideas that humans hold regarding Bear, whilst seeking an encounter for real with a being that is now scarce in western Europe.

With special thanks to Marco and Wild Watching Spain.

Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here:

Somiedo Natural Park

Asturias

Cantabrian Brown Bear

Grizzly Man movie

Grenadier Guards bearskins

Bear clan

Eight species of bear

Spirituality and Bear

13. Sounds II - messages from the non-human

June 7, 2019

Nature, the non-human - and humans too - connect together in the world of sounds. We are all auditory creatures. However, how do we non-humans relate to what we hear? How do we experience these sounds and where do we store the images and memories we associate with them: in our heads, our hearts, our cells, or all of those?

With three chosen non-human sounds that mean something to him and spark discussion, plus his own music, Colin considers: the messages that the non-human shares with us; the difference between noise and sound; seeking being unsettled by a natural sound; how sounds herald other beings as visitors in ‘our’ world; and how we feel their presence.

Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here:

Whale blowing

Blue Whale

Science of sounds as a sight

Cockchafer / May Bug

Emotional Reaction Model - Misophonia

12. Ghosts in the Darkness

May 11, 2019

Night distorts the human world and, as we become separated from what is not human, is the night the way we reconnect with that experience? Sat in a final fragment of Dunwich’s 10th century Greyfriars Monastery, near a single tombstone of All Saints Churchyard, we record this podcast at night in one of the “most haunted places in England”.

With ‘A Natural History of Ghosts’ by Roger Clarke, filling our minds, we contemplate why should ghosts - whatever that phenomena might be - appear more often at night? As night ‘falls’ (or does it rise?) we consider the fears that we lay at night’s door, seen from the corner of one’s eye. A time of danger and the ‘other’, night is filled with terrors for modern humans.

Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here:

A Natural History of Ghosts - Roger Clarke

Bram Stoker

11. Wild Wood

April 9, 2019

“To enter a wood is to pass into a different world” said author Roger Deakin, and in this episode, recorded in ancient Staverton Thicks forest, we explore why it is that there is a history of humans going to the woods to grow and learn, and to travel to find ourselves, often by getting lost. Why is it a place of story-telling, of fairy tales, of childhood imagination?

Disorientating for many modern humans, is there a density of ‘otherness’ in forest, and is this why for us the wild wood is it place of fear but also a place that we love? Sit with us on a mossy fallen tree as we question whether these are places to hide, to escape and adventure, or ones to fear where the non-human - or perhaps human - is watching us.

Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here:

Blair Witch Project

The Legend of Boggy Creek

Staverton Thicks

Pollarding

Gossip from the Forest - Sara Maitland

Where the Wild Things Are - Maurice Sendak

Grimm’s Fairy Tales

As You Like It - William Shakespeare

Walden - Henry David Thoreau

Wood - Andy Goldsworthy

The Scarlet Letter - Nathaniel Hawthorn

The Consolations of the Forest - Sylvain Tesson

Wild Wood - Roger Deakin

Woodlands - Oliver Rackham

The Witch - Robert Eggers

Grizzly Adams

Olympic National Park

Massachusetts

Polish Jewish villages

10. Myth and The Woodwose - feat. Thea Smiley

March 7, 2019

We humans have long made sense of the non-human world around, and beyond us, through storytelling and myth. Folklore has much to say about hairy wild men, and women, and their relationship to us, past and present. Exploring these motifs, stories and the creative process, we focus on these ‘woodwose’, their presence on church fonts, and their probable origins as creatures and symbols.

We speak with playwright Thea Smiley who, with theatre company Wonderful Beast, has written about The Last Wildman and The Woodwose. With her we ponder what we should learn from wild places and wild people, and the 'mythical' beings who perhaps know more than we do about how to live.

Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here:

Wonderful Beast theatre company

Return of the Wildman

Green children of Woolpit

Orford Ness

Ted Hughes ‘Wodwo’

Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Almasty

9. Tracks

February 7, 2019

In this podcast we explore the proscribed routes, the safe paths, the trackways; and how they affect our perception of the land and our experience of the non-human world. What lives beyond the path? Are we an animal making paths of convenience or is there a human need for paths, boundaries and way markers - is it that our species deliberately wants to make marks on the land?

On a windswept autumn day we explore The Ridgeway and ancient Wayland’s Smithy discussing trading routes, pilgrimage, and how to avoid getting lost on tracks that may even be born of the Earth itself.

Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here:

The Ridgeway

Oxfordshire Downs

Wayland’s Smithy

Uffington White Horse

Plague village of Eyam

The Old Straight Track

A Line Made by Walking

National Trust

Tristan Gooley

8. Night

January 7, 2019

Night makes us focus on our human experience of the darkness. Night is a place where the non-human world thrives: both in reality through wild predators whose senses exceed ours, and also in imagination as, for humans, the darkness often harbours our fears and is home to the unknown, the half-seen, and the mis-heard.

We explore what is special about night, In what ways does night reveal itself that goes beyond simply the interval between the light of day? How do we respond as the night-time takes away our senses? Maybe night is when we see ourselves most clearly.

Some of the ideas and references we make in this podcast can be found here: